Posted by: travelrat | July 15, 2009


S4 Oggie

Rugby fans will probably be familiar with the cry ‘Oggie! Oggie! Oggie!’ yelled from many a terrace, especially by followers of the Welsh national team. But, few ‘outsiders’ know of its origin.

To best describe an Oggie … think of a Cornish pasty, treble it and bake it in Wales . Both have similar origins. Both were a handy means of providing a portable packaged meal for miners to take to work with them, or have their wives or mothers deliver it at lunchtime.

The Welsh coal miners held it by the crimping in the crust because of the coal dust on their fingers; the Cornish tinners held it so to keep from ingesting the antimony and arsenic which were a lethal by-product of tin mining,

Both would leave the crusts for the spirits they believed haunted the mine, and, if you kept them fed, would give warning of impending disaster. And, since they were dead already, a little arsenic was no problem. The Welshman would throw his crust over his shoulder with a cry of ‘Oggie!’, which is possibly the origin of the chant.

No, I didn’t try one; only two hours before, I’d got on the outside of a gargantuan Welsh breakfast. Even if I hadn’t, I don’t think I’d manage it; that’s definitely an item for sharing!

(Yes, I know my mobile phone, which I placed by the ‘Oggie’ to give an idea of the size, is ‘so last century’ But, I am planning to replace it soon!)



  1. I didn’t know that. I really enjoyed hearing about that, especially about them throwing the crusts over their shoulders.

    Don’t worry about your mobile – you should see mine. My friends with iPhones scoff!

    • There is, apparently, a slight difference in ingredients … the Welsh version contains leeks.

      (Clarissa Dickson-Wright said a Cornish pasty should not contain carrots, as they aren’t grown in Cornwall. That one, I will have to check on)

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s


%d bloggers like this: